I remember as a kid taking a general electricity /electrician class just for fun one summer and learning the concept of plunging raw electricity into water to create hydrogen energy.

That was over 20 years ago. I restudied up on this concept a few weeks ago after seeing my neighbor’s water powered work truck often seen driving around Clovis. I’ve been planning on converting my Element to it as soon as it’s paid off.

Last week a Japanese company released this concept and said they’d be making it publically available, but the car they were testing it in was this really tiny two-seater thingy.

Last night at the gym I saw a commercial for a new water powered Honda, now available. Here’s the link to it if you’d like to check it out on your break and learn more:

http://www.cardevotion.com/Article/15/All_New_Hydrogen_Powered_Honda_FCX...

I’m not telling everyone to go out and buy a new Honda, but these conversion kits ARE available (Google: “water 4 gas” for more info), and I’m told are easy to install, and can be removed and converted back easily if you decide you’d rather burn up your money. It’s something to think about as we pay dearly financially and environmentally for our dependence on rotted goo that was intended to say below the Earth’s crust, rather than be burned up above it.

-s

It's all about supply and demand (and what the market will allow).
While it's true that McDonald's and other fast food places keep the same prices, I've paid different prices for items at Costco depending on the location (Clovis, N. Fresno and W. Fresno), and all were cheaper than the online price. As for Savemart, or Vons, or any other grocery store, I'm sure there are variations from store to store, if you look hard enough; they offer so many items, however, that it's hard to do equate this to the flux at the pump.
To use a different example: a home in Fresno will be priced differently than a home in Topeka; similar concept with gas, but a much smaller scale.

Have you ever noticed that, the same gas station brands will have different prices at their different locations, throughout town?
Imaging if other chain businesses charged various prices at all the different locations, you would pay a different price for the same brand of fast-food closer to the highway, than for the same brand in other areas. What if the food prices at a Savemart was different for the same food at another Savemart in town.
Are there any other Franchises besides Gas stations gasoline prices that will vary prices from shop’s that are a few miles near by? An Arco at one location’s price is not the same as an Arco a few miles away, this is the same with all Gas Station brands all over, in every city. But the price for a McDonald’s hamburger will be constant from each McDonald’s restaurant with in the same areas of the world.

It takes me a little over an hour to bike ride 20 Miles. So I guess when gasoline prices are over $8, then more people will be using bicycles.

It only costs $1 to ride the city bus across town but it can take longer than riding a bicycle.

Rob set up a digital camera in your apartment window video the street.
Give the pictures to the police.
Make a police report and send it with a letter registered to the slimlord that owns the place.
give the slumlord notice and tell him to clean it up or be sued for each ime police come out because he allows it to happen
Better yet how about a new website Rob?
Calaveras Live.
Put up some web cams so people can tune in and watch the action live.
Pass out fylers with the web address so everyone on the street can tune in.
Maybe other building owners will let you set up cams.
That should scare the druggies.

As for Dickey Platground why not open a police office there.
Then if police need to use a phone or write reports they can go to the playground.
Also at about 9 pm or so they can come and lock down the playground untill the next mornimg.
Or do like in the old days where a custodian lived at each school.
Have a place for someone to stay over night at the playground.
On weekends have head a parks and recreation stay over night at a diffrent playground to see what its really like.
Also as part of their job require each Council Fool stay over night once a week at a difrent playground in their district.

Drunks sipping beer.
Vagrants that stink like they messed themself and a few have.
Holes in stained pants with everything exposed to the world.
Bums that bring on 15 bags of trash to recycle blocking seats and walk ways.
Then you have the ones that use the wheelchairs to haul the junk on.
They take up 5 or 6 seats with the wheel chair and junk then sit in a seat.
Thats seats for 7 people filled.
then if there a two of them like that and real person in wheelchair at stop.
Real person has to wait for next bus.
Then on sundays they brng chickens and other animals from swap meet.
Why is this allowed?
Most sundays you cant get on bus 26 becuase its filled with the trash and animals people bring on.
Then they let each adult bring on four kids under 6 for free.
4 adults can bring on 16 kids for free.
It should be 1 child not 4.
Buses are for people not this 3rd world garbage and nonsense
Now with gas going up they want to raise bus fares.
Make the seniors and handicapped pay the same as everyonelse.
They get cost of living raises.

Famous Guest quoted an old article. The last sentence in the article says "All prices updated March, 2005."

Rob DeFrees

Chatting with mates in London this morning MOI is told the following:

3.785 liters to a gallon

3,785 x $2.17 = $8.21 per gallon of petrol.

Not sure where the figures quoted where got, but in London the price of petrol is considerably higher than used on here.

Mind, real mates dealing with prices must be thick as bricks if they do not convet it proper, and hardly think they are that.

Wake up Fresno, the FREE ride to roam without feeling the pain of high petrol prices is OVER

"A chink in the capitalist armor methinks."

"I already see the smart people rolling around in compacts"

I guess it's a matter of perspective, I see the smart people investing in the oil companies. Gettin' while the gettin' is good!

Abe Lopez

to elaborate on Legal Alien's list, i just pulled this off of http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
absolutely disgusting...

Netherlands Amsterdam $6.48
Norway Oslo $6.27
Italy Milan $5.96
Denmark Copenhagen $5.93
Belgium Brussels $5.91
Sweden Stockholm $5.80
United Kingdom London $5.79
Germany Frankfurt $5.57
France Paris $5.54
Portugal Lisbon $5.35
Hungary Budapest $4.94
Luxembourg $4.82
Croatia Zagreb $4.81
Ireland Dublin $4.78
Switzerland Geneva $4.74
Spain Madrid $4.55
Japan Tokyo $4.24
Czech Republic Prague $4.19
Romania Bucharest $4.09
Andorra $4.08
Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12

between the US and other countries used to be much greater, till recently of course. Quick googling got me this

Prices US per gallon

Netherlands $6.25
Norway $6.21
United Kingdom $5.94
Germany $5.87
Italy $5.72

We're catching up, and I swear, I already see the smart people rolling around in compacts....

Diablo

a long time ago regarding this. The price increase was predicted. Gas companies do know what they are doing.

It's a limited resource. They're gonna get as much juice from the turnip they can before the turnip is dry.

That said, the way the lazy american traipses around in their SUV's, another thing they went over in the special, if they didn't try to curb the rate of consumption with price increases we'd blow through the worlds supply of oil in less than 50 years.

Before anyone squawks about there being so much oil, just look at the rate of consumption. It's staggering.

Whatever, I'm ready to move on. Bring the solar and wind power. There are so many ways to recapture energy. Bout time those big oil companies let go of their grip on the economy and just let the populous evolve.

Anyone remember that show Beyond 2000? There were so many great ideas that addressed conserving and doing things more efficiently. They all got bought up by big companies looking to protect their financial future. A chink in the capitalist armor methinks.

Diablo

pay alot more than we do for gas? Although, I believe most of that is taxes. Either way your getting "raped"!

Seems to me that we should nationalize all petroleum production in this country. That way maybe we could buy our fuel at $0.07 per gallon like the other opec nations, instead of being raped by these oil companies for $40B profit per year with a steady increase of around 30%.

The problem is american's are so fat and content to feed at their corporate troughs of mass consumerism and materialism. The european's have it down. they protest, strike and riot until they get the change they demand.

Imagine if all american's were patriotic enough to do something like the eurpoeans are doing right now, how they're blocking the oil tankers from coming into port with their fishing boats. we could do that here in our own way, maybe blocking the gas trucks from refilling the gas stations by blocking their access with our parked cars. It probably wouldn't accomplish much, but if enough participated, maybe it could send a message of discontent to this joke of a government.

Gas is really getting outrageous. It makes me really worried about trying to buy a new truck or a new motorcycle (both of which I am planning for) because I don't want to purchase a gasoline fuel vehicle right before a major infastructure change caused by a spike in gas prices.

We really need some strong, decisive leadership by the government on this problem (the kind they showed with the FCC change from analog to digital television broadcasts) so auto manufactures and consumers can plan for the change that we all know is coming.

Rob DeFrees

You are right clever and am gobsmacked that taking public transport or riding a bike is not considered an option.

Think how gutted you would feel if you were paying $9.00 a gallon for petrol, as they are in UK.

Last time checked there is public transport that takes one right to RiverPark, and the cost is very reasonable. Think of all of the lovely folks you could meet.

MOI is ahead of the curve, does not drive, own a motor and saves buckets of cash.